Senator FIFIELD (Victoria—Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Assistant Minister for Social Services) (14:14): The coalition never said that the ABC or SBS would be immune from savings. On this side of the chamber we are very strongly and consistently of the view that every Commonwealth government department and agency— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Order! Minister, you have the call. Senator FIFIELD: should seek to be the best possible stewards that they can be of precious taxpayer dollars, which is why Minister Turnbull commissioned the efficiency review. The efficiency review found that there were indeed savings that could be found at the ABC and SBS without impacting on programming, without impacting on quality. Minister Turnbull has announced today that, in view of these findings, the government will reduce funding to the national broadcasters by $308 million over five years. That is $254 million for the ABC and $53.7 million for the SBS. I will give you an important statistic in a moment.