Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (14:54): I thank the member for the question. It enables me to explain to him both in respect of refrigerant gases, and generally, the way in which this will work. We had a discussion about this in question time yesterday when I was asked some questions about small businesses, and I think that it is very important that members of this parliament are out there giving people the facts, not making things up. Opposition members interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER ( Ms AE Burke ): Order! Ms GILLARD: The facts are that there is a limited number of businesses that will pay a carbon price, well less than 500. They are the only businesses that will be required to directly pay the carbon price. When examples of small businesses have been raised with us, and the member raises an example of a small business now, they are not directly paying the carbon price. Opposition members interjecting— Mr Dutton interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! The member for Dickson is warned! Ms GILLARD: We have always said to the Australian people that there would be a flow-through impact from carbon pricing into the costs of things that households buy, and most particularly we have pointed to the increase in household electricity, which will be on average around $3.30 a week, whereas on average household assistance is $10.10 a week. Mr Hartsuyker: Madam Deputy Speaker, I rise on a point of order. This question was in relation to the increase in the cost of refrigerant gas resulting from the imposition of a carbon tax, and the Prime Minister should address the question. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! The Prime Minister is answering the question and has the call. Ms GILLARD: In respect of small businesses, an example was raised yesterday about electricity. The member is raising a different example with me today. Yes, for small businesses there will be some price impacts, but it is very important to keep a sense of scale here and also the ability of businesses with these price impacts to pass them on to consumers who are receiving the benefits of tax cuts, family payment increases and pension increases. Yesterday we had a lot of fear raised about electricity and small businesses. The Council of Small Businesses of Australia has advised the relevant minister, Minister Combet, that the electricity cost of a typical small retail business makes up less than two per cent of total costs and, if you work that all the way through, the Council of Small Businesses says that the typical small business power bill will increase by around $5 per week. On refrigerant gas costs, as the member would probably know, these are only used intermittently, not as a continuous cost. Opposition members interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, the member for Casey! Ms GILLARD: Once again, there is a sense of scale that needs to be got into dealing with these price impacts. We are seeing time after time from the opposition exaggeration to try to raise fear. On 1 July we will see the truth. Mr Irons: Madam Deputy Speaker, I seek leave to table the factual price list from Heatcraft which shows the price increases. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Is leave granted? The Leader of the House will come to the dispatch box and advise whether the document is to be tabled. Mr Albanese: Perhaps he could give it to an attendant and they can bring it around and we can have a look at it. No. Leave not granted. Opposition members interjecting— Mr Irons: I am waiting for an answer. Honourable members interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! It is I who gets to decide who gets to stand up or not in this place, and helpful tips are wearing thin. The Leader of the House did say no. You might not have been able to hear it in the hubbub. The member for Swan has made the point and continual abuse of points of order will be dealt with.