The PRESIDENT (17:26): Senators, during the course of the debate, Senators Macdonald and Heffernan particularly asked me about standing order 195 in relation to the requirement to read out the motion before the chair. I indicated that there had been previous rulings that this was not a compulsory matter, and I am pleased to say that I was correct with my ruling, so I am just reporting that back. It was President Calvert and President Hogg who both ruled that the question does not need to be read out if the motion has been circulated in print. Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. The motion that you raised had not been circulated as Senator Heffernan clearly indicated, so it should have been read, with respect. The PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald, it was deemed to have been circulated in the chamber. It may have been through misadventure that it did not arrive on your desk, but I understand it was circulated in the chamber.