Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:32): This is the tragedy of a senator who cannot think through the answer that he is provided. I gave a quite unequivocal answer—and I do not know what he did not understand about the two letters of the one word 'no'—and he then based his supplementary question on the suggestion that I said yes to his question. The answer was no, so as a result his supplementary question has absolutely and utterly no standing. Senator Kim Carr: We just don’t believe you. Senator ABETZ: Whilst we are talking about jobs, I hear the interjection of the former failed industry minister, who has 140,000 lost manufacturing jobs around his neck. That is his legacy of six years as industry minister—the loss of 140,000 jobs in the manufacturing sector. Of course, Senator Cameron, whilst he was in the AMWU had a similar success story. (Time expired)