Senator RONALDSON (Victoria—Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Centenary of ANZAC and Special Minister of State) (14:43): I thank Senator Carr for his question. I indicated the other day it has been some four months since the senator has asked me a question and I am pleased for his new-found interest in the portfolio. We were probably still in the middle of the bushfire season. I say to Senator Carr that the government made a number of changes in the industry portfolio as a result of the budget. I would like, for the sake of the chamber, to go through some of those industry programs, to talk about the manufacturing and other workers that Senator Carr— Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order going to direct relevance: the question was quite clear. It was about the Building Innovative Capability scheme; if you could you direct the minister towards the question. The PRESIDENT: The question was slightly broader than that. Also, the minister has started to address the manufacturing aspects of the question and the changes to the budget. I have been listening to the question and to the answer. The minister is only halfway through his allotted time. Senator RONALDSON: I had hoped that what this government is doing in relation to industry programs might have been of interest to those opposite. In relation to the specific program raised by Senator Carr, I will take that on notice. This government is concerned for workers throughout this nation who, at the moment, are going through a very difficult transition. Indeed, as acknowledged by the Leader of the Opposition in one of his speeches during the week, it is appropriate that we talk about the support this budget is going to provide for— (Time expired)